About that "transparency" proposal

[Dixie]

http://occupydixie.blogspot.com/2011/12/important-proposal-for-occupy-nashville.html

[Ihavadream]

Why is it that Tech and Stream teams meet in private at the Sports Page with no minutes or accountabiity. And don't say its because of  Privacy issues as that's a lame excuse. I have a Tax Office and I know all about Privacy issues. Trancparency is just that. For all to see. Seems like all this is just a case of the Pot calling the Kettle black! Get over yourselves.

[onewhisper2]

I haven't see transparency in anything since I've been active with this movement. I've suggested various ways to correct it. One or two people agree that it needs to go to this workgroup or that one. I try to contact those groups and hear nothing except crickets

[mechartnik]

would be nice if someone could update this thread, currently a GA going on too, supposedly, but no livestream.....transparency anyone?

Andor   aka mechartnik

[Dixie]

I was told that this proposal was introduced for consensus in GA on Tuesday night, January 3rd, and that it was blocked and did not pass.  It's unclear to me if it was expected to be re-introduced with some wording changes or not.  Unfortunately, there are no minutes for GA meetings posted since December 20th, so information is sketchy.

[0v3rki11]

Why is it that Tech and Stream teams meet in private at the Sports Page with no minutes or accountabiity. And don't say its because of  Privacy issues as that's a lame excuse. I have a Tax Office and I know all about Privacy issues. Trancparency is just that. For all to see. Seems like all this is just a case of the Pot calling the Kettle black! Get over yourselves.

Tech meets off site for 2 reasons.

1. How many of you want to listen to us go on about how we're going to configure the linode in order to get our MX back online so that we can distribute accounts that will aid us in getting OSTicket off the ground so as to streamline effective communications? Or what about how we're going to utilize the Rukus equipment to direct a dedicated wireless network to the plaza from half a mile away? Or even migrating our domains to a different registrar and updating our DNS records, analyzing web and traffic analytics to ensure effective SEO practices?

Our discussions are purely technical in nature and there's no reason for us to confuse people with our tech-speak as it serves no one. We would end up spending more time explaining to people what we're talking about than we would solving problems and getting these systems online for all of YOU to use.

2. We also discuss and update each other on account information and passwords to which we have said time and time and time again we are not going to just broadcast to the whole world. We are dicussing sensitive information that in the wrong hands could bring down every bit of our communications.

Website, forusm, livestream, IRC, Facebook, Twitter, all gone in a keystroke beause the information wasn't protected. That sound like a good idea to y'all?

Not to mention the legal ramifications if the information we store and protect is compromised revealing the personal account information of our online members. Think HIPPA.

[0v3rki11]

I haven't see transparency in anything since I've been active with this movement. I've suggested various ways to correct it. One or two people agree that it needs to go to this workgroup or that one. I try to contact those groups and hear nothing except crickets

There has been a great deal of transparency in the past. Right now however there hasn't been a lot of transparency due to the diminishing organization of working groups. GA minutes aren't getting taken or posted, press releases are flying around from all directions to the point the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.

And as for not getting a reply form a working group when you email them, it's been brought up more than once that we need to do an audit of those teams email addresses in the distribution lists to determine who is still on those working groups and who isn't so we can get a better assesment of which teams need more help. Right now just about ALL of the working groups are in serious need of more members with the exception of tech and media, especially media as they have more people than any other working group.

[Dixie]

Lol.  Thanks for protecting us from too much boring information.  Again, some of us have been online a verrrrry long time and know our way around a bit.  It ain't all skeery.  It does keep people out tho.   

[0v3rki11]

Lol.  Thanks for protecting us from too much boring information.  Again, some of us have been online a verrrrry long time and know our way around a bit.  It ain't all skeery.  It does keep people out tho.   

It may not be boring to you but it is boring and confusing for a majority of others. I'm a career IT administrator, every single day for the past 18 years I've had to support the non-technical masses and I know from both personal and professional experience that going into technical details about IT issues is one of the quickest ways to put a chronic insomniac to sleep. We're trying to ATTRACT viewers and supporters, not run them off. lol

As for how long you've been online, that makes little to no difference to me as my access and exposure pre-dates the Internet. Having access to the Internet doesn't make one an Internet/Software/Hardware engineer or an IT/IS professional. 

[Dixie]

F'sure, I don't have the physical equipment for the usual pissin' contest, but I can agree with you that time online doesn't necessarily equal much mo' than, well, time on line.  My own days with tech go back to about 1977 or so when I supervised the QC line for a plant that made a Pong-like game here in Nashville.  By the time I had to figure out how to get around on a computer, it was one from Sears that ran DOS back in about 1984 in Chicago.  I'll add that raising a son (now 32) who shares some personality traits with Nick the computer guy on SNL and who now makes big bucks in Silicon Valley (San Jose) has given me an appreciation of the travails of techies.

[0v3rki11]

"travails of techies" lmao. That's one way to put it, and I'm sure your son would agree it's an understatement