I am a fan of the above post, i feel that we should have ever changing roles within the movement, while we all have skills that are better for one work group or another we can bring something to every aspect of ON. I pray that everyone can start going to meetings that they wouldn't normally find themselves in, this would not only bring fresh ideas to every table, but also expand on our interactions with each other. I have noticed in my little time here that I am reminded of high school. Everyone links up with those that are similar, and have agreeing views, this causes rifts between individuals simply because you will team up with your "associates" fight even when you don't necessarily agree with that person. I remember being part of the skater group and being hated by nearly every other group, however I was on little league with all the jocks back when we were all younger, I did track for a bit, was on the chess team and also did drama. What I learned from all that was that many people liked me in school, as long as no one knew they did, lol in private we got along and were able to achieve goals, but within the group dynamic all were opposed to my existence. May-hap if we had more group interaction with those we dont see eye to eye with we could see how they view things better and understand where they could be coming from. i personally haven't heard the sexism argument so i don't speak on that i speak on the society of ON and all the cracks and gaps. If we would work together to bridge our canyons instead of yelling back and forth which side of the gap is better we could achieve what we were brought together in commonality towards our goals. If someone opposes what you believe in you should speak with them more than those who agree with you, its the only way you will learn anything new, as well as give you better ideas on dealing with your opponents, isnt that why people play devils advocates? Anyway there it is, just another opinion in a sea of such. all my love to all that accept it and twice as much to those who dont. Yippie OUT.